What were those early years of co-education like? How were you challenged? How did you have fun? Were you excited? Scared?
Carrie George: I don’t think I was scared. I wanted to go to a smaller college. My mother told me, starting in about second grade, that I had to get good grades because I had to earn a scholarship to college … and my high school, for some reason, had an excellent counselor. And she said, ‘what about this college?’ And I did what (Kathy) did: ‘Well, I don’t think I’m going to Claremont Men’s College!’ And she said, ‘no, no, they’re going coed.’ But it was still like, ‘oh, for the first year? I don’t know about that.’ Then she told me about the economics program. She told me about political science, too … and that (all) sounded very intriguing.
Cheri Strelow: Neither of my parents had graduated from college … and my parents were divorced. And my mom always said, ‘you’re going to college, because if you get married and your husband doesn’t have a job, at some point you will have to work.’ You know, that was the era. My mom grew up on a farm in Iowa. It was slightly different for me.
Carrie George: What (also) gave me comfort was that Scripps was right next door. So, I thought, ‘well, it’s not like I’m going to be out in the middle of the desert with a bunch of guys!’
Jeff Arce: So, I like to tell a funny story—well, I think it’s funny. But when I tell people I went to Claremont McKenna and it used to be Claremont Men’s College, they’re like, ‘oh, you went to a men’s college?’ Well, no, not really. The year I went there, 1976, was the first year they accepted women. And that’s because they wanted me to come there—because I said, ‘I’m only going to come to Claremont if you start accepting women.’ So, yeah, you’re welcome.
(All laughing).
Cheri Strelow: Thank you, Jeff.
Kathy Hurley: Yeah, we’ve always wondered who we
should thank!
Cheri Strelow: I almost didn’t know enough to be nervous. And it was so welcoming. I mean, of course there were the handful of guys that didn’t want to have women here (and they could make it known) … but that wasn’t an attitude that I experienced on a regular basis.
I do remember going to a phone night … which was the annual time where students would get on the phone and call alumni and ask for donations. So, you know, here we were—freshman year—and women are calling only men, of course, because there were only men alumni. And some of them, I remember, they just hung up. I remember that.
Carrie George: But I also remember getting some men on the phone and having them say, ‘oh, this is so great! I’m talking to a woman who is at Claremont!’ So, you got the range of reactions.
Kathy Hurley: I was in Benson (Hall) … and really some of the funniest stories in Benson are that you figured the bathrooms had changed from being male bathrooms. But no, you had the whole urinal along one wall. And it flushed automatically! So, as women, you’re in there—(hear the flushing noise)—and it’s like, ‘wait a minute, who’s in here?’ (Laughing).
Carrie George: Particularly freshman year, your social life starts out being very concentrated with the dorms. And there were enough women there that we never felt alone.
Kathleen Fitzpatrick: We were just living our lives as students. We had women friends. We had guy friends. We went to parties.
Cheri Strelow: It was fun, because we were kind of a novelty. I think we were invited to more things than the average freshman (male student) because there were so few of us and we were new. Like, Jil (Stark, then-President’s wife) took us under her wing and, you know, she’d have these teas with us and she’d be knitting or crocheting or something …
Jeff Arce: I didn’t get to do tea.
George Davis: I know!
Carrie George: So, did you want to do tea?
George Davis: No.
(All laughing).